The Land Between The Lakes, or LBL for short, is a national park located near Murray Kentucky. It had been Adam that had screamed. These tales are similar to the Michigan Dogman stories. This is not the only information that has changed since it was first released. This is one of the most widely known Dogman cases that remains unsolved. He's written articles for MU and Daily Grail and has been a guest on Coast to Coast AM and Binnal of America. Their shotgunned bodies were found on Oct. 5, 1980. Any and all musicians are encouraged to bring their acoustic instruments. According to whats been said, they for one reason or another (one theory suggests the fathers cologne may have contained musk that may have potentially angered the creature), they got accosted by a Dogman that was not happy to see them. Techniques of multiple use land management are employed to improve the area's forest and open lands and to provide food and shelter for wildlife. Other newspaper reports from 1980 quote law enforcement as saying the girls were likely murdered very soon after they went missing. Over time, some of the original stories and information have changed in regards to Murder in Land Between the Lakes. Bloggers across the internet attribute murders within LBL, animal disappearances and other paranormal activities to the Beast. This is one of those stories that cannot be verified and some believers in the monster think the authorities covered up the deaths so that local tourism would not suffer. A police deputy named Philip Douglas and a State trooper named William Folkson discovered the bodies. Eyewitnesses describe the beast in question as wolf-like and it fits todays dogman descriptionscanine in appearance yet walking upright and standing at close to seven feet tall with glowing eyes. Subscribe Today! Your email address will not be published. I, myself, had not seen a copy of the sketch which had been published only in West Tennessee newspapers and not in Stewart County, Clarksville or other Middle Tennessee newspapers soon after themurders. 19. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/amelia-courtney8/message, This episode contains NEW information and Lainie & Amelia breakdown other information. He has written, produced and directed (and occasionally acted in) over a dozen plays, most of them in the Horror and Crime genres. Even a few horses had met their end with savage attacks upon their bodies. So what do you think? Last of the Ice Blue Starfighters ~ LBL area. Their shotgunned bodies were found on Oct. 5, 1980. After the police investigated the crime scene, it was determined that the cause of death was from an animal attack. Listen to Amelia & Lainie on "Murder At Land Between The Lakes" as they discuss & interview family members, friends, & potential witnesses, as they start from the beginning and look into the . Now, for a while I have been asking anyone who would listen, Who was the forensic sketch artist who drew the highly-detailed sketch of The Man in the Blue Truck. I was waiting for some type of response. On September 17th, 1980, the half sisters disappeared from their hometown of Dover, Tennessee. Throughout the years, there have been talk of hauntings, Native American curses, mysterious lights over gravestones at night, and several tales of a wolf like creature that stood on two legs around the Land Between the Lakes area. The 1980 Lost Creek Child Murders of Land Between the Lakes remained unsolved to this day. Two teenage girls executed at Land Between the Lakes in Dover,. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.. Thats the story. Many of you already know the basic details. And judging by the kooky headli, As Ive mentioned in other posts and on social media, I spent the bulk of the wint, Unfortunately, there are no mammoths alive today. I had been cordially invited to observe Ferrier interview for his package and at the wrapup of is interviews he asked me, Do you have any questions? I said, Yes, are you going to give him a copy of the sketch? I asked the da. The town was so unruly during that era, the Dover Board of Mayor and Aldermen voted to establish a city police department to get matters in check. The. He supposedly is pretty knowledgeable about these creatures. You two are doing great Ever since trauma in my life I will steer away from the whole Crime/Negative Energy I willing include into my life. At least one person was shot outside of a Walmart in the Town Center area Wednesday, police officials said. Initially it was reported the two girls were believed to be runaways. Throughout the years many people have had the idea of a bigfoot trail camera to take a photo of this dogman werewolf. No one has ever been charged or arrested. This story is admittedly hard to verify as fact, I will be honest about that. Autopsy reports for both girls are blank on the line where the date and time of death are noted. Murder in Land Between the Lakes: Sketches of Man in the Blue Truck ~ Witness or Suspect? For two decades, some of the fastest cars in several surrounding counties in Tennessee and Kentucky could regularly be seen and heard squealing out and laying rubber after Circling The Dip. Sometimes those cars would head off toward the long asphalt stretches in Land Between the Lakes and Long Creek Road for drag races. Made Possible by. Below is a blurb I wrote on Facebook about the murders. Id the General Assembly,* Committee has been uppointed to consider postal arrangements. Their remains were found by two hikers 18 days later at Land Between The Lakes. This series features special guests and is hosted by Amelia . The anatomical diagnosis of the autopsy report for Vickie says, Decomposed, partly skeletonized, young Caucasian female; organo-autolysis, insect infestation; shotgun wound to the head. The later version seems to be the true version. I dont. According to the native Shawnee tribe, this abomination was the spirit of a powerful shapeshifting shaman, and outsiders were frequently warned away from the area. They distract the dogman beast and are able to leave. The family, visiting from Florida, was found torn to pieces in their RV. Friends and family of Carla Atkins and Vickie Stout. 13 talking about this. They were walking back down the hill to their home when they reportedly were seen talking with a man in a blue pickup truck. What is the Beast of the Land Between the Lakes? Dover, Tennessee was one wild little town in 1980 when murder victims Carla Sue Atkins, 14, and Vickie Lee Stout, 16, lived in a mobile home right behind the old Dairy Dip. Before it was a nature preserve it housed around 70 families. MORTUI VELOCES SUNT! Mom kept insisting they did not run away, Gordon said. Some think that the United States army set up the bunkers in an attempt to kill the creature. Gov. Indictments are not that hard to get. I have mellowed out some since I wrote the above blurb. Joe apparently was an avid rider of dirt bikes, with which he would go tearing about over forest trails in the Land Between the Lakes, and on this day he was out as usual as Jan and her other cousin sat outside. Early accounts from French explorers and traders in the region speak of their being warned of the shadowy presence of aloup garouby Shawnee fur traders. For some short time now I have known from a good source a family member of the witness who gave the descriptionto law enforcement of The Man in the Blue Truck that there was no forensic sketch artist who meticulously drew the highly-detailed original sketch. I actually have nine different theories. But, supposedly, a group of soldiers was summoned from nearby Fort Campbell to go after the creature, which once again, allegedly they did put it down and it was supposedly so big, it took nearly the whole group to load the body into one of their trucks. Their remains were found by two hikers 18 days later at Land Between The Lakes. The shading is the same. Their bodies were found 18 days later at Land Between The Lakes. I asked the investigator how old he was in 1980 when the girls were murdered and did he live in Dover then? Why has some of the original information shifted away from the original version or versions? Biology, nature, and cryptozoology still remain Brent Swancers first intellectual loves. While many tourists will come away with stories of the picturesque landscape, the LBL is also known for much darker reasons. The mother was attacked next and officials allegedly said due to the aftermath, the state of her body and just how torn up everything was, she must have put up a huge fight. Dover was wild little town when Carla and Vickie lived behind the Dairy Dip in 1980. In the world of strange mystery beasts there are some that are certainly stranger than others, and some that are more frightening than others as well. The attacks could not be attributed to any know animal around the area. Tennessee Valley Authority Police were notified and responded to the crime scene along with the Stewart County, Tenn., Sheriffs Department and the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation. The marks were like a bears-claw-rake, not those caused by branches or sticky bushes, but a definite wide pattern of a paw print. I do think initially the investigation was possibly on the right track. I posted this last year around the 40th anniversary of the girls disappearance, which was on Sept. 17, 1980 Their bodies were found about three weeks later in LBL. ", his voice startled us again, as he was trying to tell his story in between huge gulps of air. Most eyewitnesses swear they look a lot like werewolves and act much as the "wolves" did in your episode about the Palmyra wolves. The date of September 17, is a pivotal date in the unsolved Land Between the Lakes Lost Creek Child Murders. Your email address will not be published. A witness, along with his mother and a friend, recently observed a 7 ft muscular upright canine on a trail at the Land Between the Lakes National Recreation Area in Kentucky I received a telephone call from a witness in Kentucky: On Saturday March 28, 2020, the eyewitness, along with his mother and a friend, were at the Land Between the Lakes . Folks driving through our scenic area now, or those who have moved here in the past two decades or so, probably cant imagine just how lively our quiet, historic, beautiful little river town was in 1980. That information came as a surprise, and has never been mentioned again by authorities, Gordon said. Their remains were found by two hikers 18 days later at Land Between The Lakes. Region 1 Office: 731-423-5725. I wish I did. Not sure if the new ones have ever had dealings with a real reporter. Some of our staff have worked on Land Between the Lakes for many years. I dont. Why has some of the original details provided to reporters across the LBL region shifted from the original version and then shifted again? and our Sporadic sightings of the monster as well as the partially eaten carcasses of large animals have long been a staple of area lore. And then whining, trying to get out of the pen in a frantic panic of digging and gnawing at the fencing. To basically sum it all up, in about the early to mid-80s, there was a family that went camping in the area of Land Between the Lakes which saddles the border of Kentucky and Tennessee. A young mom & her 2 year old daughter vanish into thin air from Cross Plains, TN, in March of 2004. It can be found in Land Between the Lakes in Kentucky, where Rod and company are originally from, though the murders would end up taking place in Florida. The increasingly spooked campers could not actually see anything at the time, even when the light of their flashlights stabbed out into the clinging dark, but they definitely heard it, and whatever it was seemed to be quite agitated. Reporters seeking the truth do not scare easily. My belief and opinion is that it was overlooked because this started out as a bad investigation. The date of September 17, is a pivotal date in the unsolved Land Between the Lakes Lost Creek Child Murders. But, one resident made it's way in to the area. Or is this all just tale tales, myth, and urban legend? In the 1960s, it became the "land between the lakes." In an attempt to control flooding and to generate electricity in rural Kentucky and Tennessee, the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) built Kentucky Dam, thereby impounding the Tennessee River and creating Kentucky Lake in 1944. Ferrell is responsible for one of the worst home invasion murders in Florida history. I said, then you really dont know what you are talking about, do you? Before it was a nature preserve it housed around 70 families. In the early 1980's a family of four were rv camping in the Land Between the Lakes area when they were brutally attacked. I have seen it published in another publication that the identity of the killer is know to family members of Carla and Vickie.. Authorities at the time said they did not know if the man in the blue truck was a suspect or a witness. A later legend claims that the monster is the spirit of a shape-changing Shawnee shaman, who was killed in wolf form by the inhabitants of his village for abusing his powers. It was designated as a national recreation area in 1963 by President John F. Kennedy and developed using funds appropriated during the Johnson administration . Law enforcement does not put much stock in the change in the cigarette story. Land Between the Lakes. He didnt because I didnt. So, I keep an open mind about the beasteven if some of the stories seem farfetched. LBLmurdervictims were initially listed as runaways, Family members of 1980murdervictims Carla Sue Atkins, 14, and Vickie Lee Stout, 16, were initially told by authorities the girls were considered runaways., We knew they didnt run away, said Patricia Gordon, sister to the girls. Most investigators Ive talked with brush the inconsistencies in statements to the side. When he came back, he was reportedly quite pale and shaking with fear, and explained that he had heard something large breathing in the darkness, and that he had had an overpowering sense of being watched, eyes heavy upon him. The front hair flip is the same. I think it was a short time after that when he said he might charge me with obstruction of justice. Murder in Land Between the Lakes, when it comes to these unsolved murders, is cloaked in mystery. The snout was long and the witness was very specific that it was much different in appearance than Bigfoot. The cover letter of the autopsy reports lists Dr. Robert H. Lee (Stewart) County Medical Examiner, Dover, Tenn., and W.B. LBLs Lost Creek Child Murders are one of, if not the, most high profile unsolved murder case in the State of Tennessee and throughout the Land Between the Lakes region. They seemed to have been ruthlessly savaged and half eaten by some powerful wild animal, with limbs missing, flesh flayed or torn from bone, organs scattered about on the ground, and deep scratches and bite marks all over them, none of which matched any animal known to inhabit the region. The first incident was a vehicle accident on The Trace in LBL just before 5 a.m. Saturday. General Ray Crouch prosecuting attorney. Listen to Amelia & Lainie on Murder At Land Between The Lakes as they discuss & interview family members, friends, & potential witnesses, as they start from the beginning and look into the case that has gone unsolved for almost 40 years. Growling. They had skipped school that day. Family members say they were initially told by law enforcement the girls were believed to be runaways. LOOK AT MY LEG!! I am not so sure of that.. stay tuned! No one knows exactly what happened. On September 17th, 1980, two sisters, Carla Atkins & Vickie Stout, went missing from the small town of Dover, Tennessee. I have published some things I know about the baffling case, but I think the time has come for me to write more. And there was always something going on at The Dairy Dip.. Carla and Vickie were last seen on the afternoon of Sept. 17, 1980, talking with a man in a blue pickup truck alongside U.S. 79 West of Dover near their home. Some years ago, I learned of the monster of Land Between the Lakes. The little girl had apparently been carried up the tree and leisurely eaten upon while carefully laid across a large tree branch. Cookie Notice A person who was shot was taken to Wellstar Kennestone Hospital, police The creature itself is typically said to look rather like a bipedal wolf, standing around 7 feet tall, and sporting clawed hands, powerful jaws with wicked teeth, glowing red eyes, and cloaked in a fetid, rotting stench. . The Mining Companies Liabilities Bill, Savings' Bank Investment Bill, and Goldfields Act Amendment Bill have been . The area was designated as a national recreation area in 1963 by President John F. Kennedy. The hash marks at both ears of both sketches are the same. Special invited guests will be speaking during the vigil. This is an allegedly true incident that is spoken about in the Dogman community. Who knows? Except for when it isnt. Anytime there are dogman reports in areas known for Bigfoot sightings, one has to wonder if the dogmen are misidentified Bigfoot creatures (if, indeed, Bigfoot exists [and is a flesh-and-blood-animal]). To give a brief summary, as these cryptids seemed to get looked over a lot, Dogmen are allegedly a cryptozoological creature, much like Sasquatch that live deep in the wildneress. Carla and Vickie left their home on U.S 79 West of Dover around 3 p.m. on Sept. 17, 1980 and walked up the steep hill along the highway to The Furnace Restaurant. In Kentucky there is a nature preserve called, The Land Between the Lakes. Were there killings that were covered up? I, for one, trust the initial information provided to the public and provided by law enforcement soon after the girls went missing to be more reliable and believable than what hearsay and the revised stories told now. DOVER, TN - Forty years may have passed, but Carla Atkins and Vickie Stout are still very much on the hearts and minds of the people of the small, quiet town of Dover, Tennessee. However, just about everyone has failed. This podcast is an excellent deep dive into a little known cold case in small town America. A witness reportedly saw a blue pickup truck turn around on the highway and drive toward the girls. Land Between the Lakes is steeped in the history of the residents who lived between the rivers before their forced removal by the Tennessee Valley Authority to create the recreation area. Listen to Amelia & Lainie on "Murder At Land Between The Lakes" as they discuss & interview family members, friends, & potential witnesses, as they start from the beginning and . More blood could be seen dripping on him. The ones at the top seem to be close and the writing in the left-hand corners are similar. Now I started doing some research as of late on forensic sketches, etc., and in looking for a forensic Etch-a-Sketch I came across the Identi-Kit and low and behold on the front cover of the Identi-Kit Manual: System of Modern Visual Identification, Lesson Two there was The Man in the Blue Truck peering at me with his unmistakable helmet hair and sporting a large mustache, aka., a Magnum PIer. For more information, please see our These are OPINIONS based on observations. Before it was a nature preserve it housed around 70 families. This story happened before the Michigan Dogman became popular. Known as the "Gateway to Land Between The Lakes", this vibrant community is located on LBL's northern border, just across from the Lake Barkley canal. Family members say soon after the girls went missing and before their bodies were found, authorities told them Carla and Vickie had been seen in a food line in Nashville. Sept. 17 also marks the beginning of the puzzling 18-day period between when the girls disappeared and when their murdered bodies were found in the Stewart County, Tenn., portion of the federal governments Land Between the Lakes. One of the key stories that I believe is significant has changed. But on that day in 2015 General Crouch had some new information. E-mail the office. Tornado Recovery 41 years have passed since 16-year-old Carla Atkins and her half sister 14-year-old Vickie Stout were reported missing on September 17, 1980 in Dover. (I am convinced that neither the original sketch of the two age progressed sketches of the original would have been produced to Ferrier and soon after released to all media West, MIddle and East Tennessee, about the three sketches: 1980 version Identi-kit ; the 2000 sketch and the 2014 sketch that does seem to have the artists name on it. A 17,000-acre outdoor playground, Land Between the Lakes National Recreation Area is just a short 45-minute drive northwest of Clarksville. Music would blare from the amped up car stereo systems and from the Dairy Dips powerful outdoor jukebox. Whatever the hulking beast was gave chase, and it reportedly actually caught up to them and grabbed the back of the vehicle with enough power to stop it in its tracks. Murder At Land Between The Lakes 35 Episodes Produced by Amelia Courtney Website On September 17th, 1980, two sisters, Carla Atkins & Vickie Stout, went missing from the small town of Dover, Tennessee. The Land Between the Lakes National Recreation Area is a United States National Recreation Area located in Kentucky and Tennessee between Lake Barkley and Kentucky Lake. This information is not discussed by law enforcement now. Land Between the Lakes - National Recreation Area Stay updated on alerts and notices, including trail closures and prescribed fires. My husbands family the Elders and the Jolleys lives in Mayfield and the Fancy Farm area.They love to talk about the scary werewolf stories but they say truth betold the family was killed by the crazy father and the animals tore the bodies apart after they were dead. Murder in Land Between the Lakes ~ Changing stories? Why have some of the stories changed? Within a few days of the girls being missing, Gordon said authorities told her and other family members the girls had been seen in Nashville in a soup line.. The public was invited and encouraged to attend. His first novel, THE CONFESSIONS OF SAINT CHRISTOPHER: WEREWOLF, is available for purchase at https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/734763 If this story does happen to be true, it might explain reports of strange military-style bunkers in the remote sections of forest between Lake Barkley and Kentucky Lake. Then, out of the trees crept a creature the likes of which none of them had never seen. https://www.tn.gov/tbi/general-information/tbi-tips.html. Adventurers will also discover attractions, camping, trails, wildlife and historical exhibits and . The half-sisters went missing on the afternoon of Wednesday, Sept. 17, 1980. The anatomical diagnosis of the autopsy report for Carla says, Decomposed skeletonized human female; organo-autolysis; shotgun wound to the head.. Some may eventually dovetail into others and lead to one theory that is possibly the correct one. We had a very good and positive conversation. This story happened before the Michigan Dogman became popular. Its a very hearsay sort of tale and allegedly, one of the local law enforcement officials that was initially involved got pushed out of the investigation by another agency, one he couldnt identify if my memory serves me right and never heard anything about it again. Autopsy reports say 1980murdervictims Carla Sue Atkins, 14, and Vickie Lee Stout, 16, died as the result of shotgun wounds to the head. If you would like to read about dogmen, werewolves, phantom dogs and stories of wolves raising children in my home state of Virginia, I hope you check out my book Strange Tales from Virginias Mountains. The body is identified as being that of Vicky (sic.) The two girls that were murdered were from dover, TN and were found in October of 1980 by the lost creek in the Land Between the lakes. LBLmurdervictims died from shotgun blasts to their heads, autopsy reports say. In Kentucky there is a nature preserve called, The Land Between the Lakes. We say goodbye to two of our own. I admire your courage to start a podcast with intentions of solving a 40yr old cold case, without any previous knowledge of podcasting or investigation journalism. Im from middle Tennessee and never heard this story. This investigator actually asked me how my investigation was going and if I was still following the case. It is my opinion the initial story is significant and the fact the story changed and has changed several times is significant. Only 18 days later their remains were found in Lost Creek, a wooded area in Land Between the Lakes. ", Joe screamed, making us jump with alarm at the sound of his voice. Here is the short version on the changing cigarette story At first in 1980 there were no cigarettes bought by the girls. Around 3 p.m. on Wednesday, Sept. 17, 1980, Carla and Vickie walked from their home on U.S. 79 West of Dover to the nearby Furnace Restaurant/Store. The natives cherish their heritage and don't look kindly upon those who disrespect it. Samples of saliva were supposedly sent for analysis and came back as being from an unidentified species akin to a wolf. A couple witnesses a dogman around hotel California, an abandon house. Listen in to all of the contradictory tales from the last known person to see them. By this time people where just calling it a werewolf.Thank you for watching!#dogman #bigfoot #scarystoriesMusic by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0Music byBump in the Night - Kevin MacleodDark Walk - Kevin MacleodThe House of Leaves - Kevin MacleodRedletter - Kevin MacleodDigital Bark- Kevin Macleod Carla and Vickies home was hidden from those at the Dairy Dip because of the nearby woods and by the large wooden, two-story B&M Furniture Store building nearby, which was originally the Dover High School. That young male and vehicle do not fit the publicized description of the man in the blue truck. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/amelia-courtney8/message, Interview with Burton Staggs about the Baby Joe Case. Then in 1997 John Vinson said they bought cigarettes. 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